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    Oooohhhhhhhh.
    Mercedes probably sandbagging a touch, but still. Going to be close.


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      They all are.....

      Ferrari sandbagging, just like rivals – Leclerc | RACER

      They should put an incentive for top practice lap to make it more interesting. Like choice of garages at the first race, an extra set of tires in Q1, or a giant piñata of Eccelstone. Something to give the fans some actual fast laps

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        Looking at the adjusted laptimes, the Ferrari-powered teams seem ahead as a group. More power or coincidence of better aero management?
        Also heard that Merc is using a newly redesigned powerplant this year?

        Another 4 testing days next week so lots of time to see.

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          Are the Ferrari teams still using downswept wings?

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            Yep, they all ran the launch concepts as far as I know.

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              Might be something to that then...

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                Originally posted by Scruffy View Post
                Might be something to that then...

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                According to F1Elvis and Scarbs, surprisingly the differences in front downforce is minimal but only if the rest of the body work is designed around it, i.e. you couldn't run a downswept wing if you haven't designed the rest of the package along with it.

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                  Timely article
                  Motorsport.com Mercedes: Switching front wing concepts would take months

                  Mercedes says changing its front wing concept to a Ferrari-style version is a project that would take months to complete, but it accepts it must be "open-minded" to work out if its rival's idea is better.

                  The new 2019 Formula 1 aero regulations have thrown up a fascinating divergence of approaches about how best to manage airflow at the front of the car.
                  While teams like Mercedes and Red Bull have opted for more traditional front wing designs, Ferrari and Alfa Romeo have done something totally different – with the outer edges of the front wing sloping downwards towards the endplate to help produce outwash.
                  Ferrari's strong start to pre-season testing last week, allied to Mercedes' low-key beginning, has prompted questions about whether or not the front wing designs are playing a part in their performance.

                  Mercedes boss Toto Wolff said his team doing its own thing had served it well over recent years, but reckoned that it should not ignore the possibility that there could be better ideas out there.

                  "You need to be open minded," he said at an event for Mercedes' title sponsor Petronas. "We have always had a different design philosophy to many of the other teams.

                  "We have gone longer than the other teams. We have never had rake in the car compared to some of the other teams. It is not because we believed our concept was superior in every angle, but we believe that the whole car power unit package was the best for us that way.

                  "Having said that, with new regulatory change, you need to be open minded about what the others have done. And if something functions better, every team at the moment will look at what the others have put on the car and try it themselves."

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                    They mention outwash. I’m wondering if this has any effect on the cars following them. The new rules were specifically written to help reduce dirty air behind them. Maybe the downforce/drag levels are similar, but the downswept version creates more disturbance behind them. Good way to keep the car behind you!!!

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                      If that's the case, they're just replacing one problem with a different same problem.
                      I guess we'll see for sure in a month. Surprised no one has done tests on whether the new rules have helped or not, but would require two cars to do it. Testing is usually only one chassis being tested at a time.

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                        I'm skeptical that the front wing will do anything; the teams are all trying to make it just as effective as before, and we have to assume they will succeed to a reasonable degree. Probably just end up back where they started.

                        Riccardo called the big rear wing a "parachute". That must have increased the delta for DRS significantly. That might make a big difference.

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                          I'm still adament the Ferarri wing will have most of the lift and a lot less drag. Im not familiar with the test track, would it highlight/exagerate those differences?

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                            Craig Scarborough is one of the best in the biz. Great analysis.

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                              Originally posted by daft_mx5 View Post
                              Craig Scarborough is one of the best in the biz. Great analysis.

                              Yeah, watched that vid earlier today, Scarbs is always insightful.



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                                You raced on it ... barcelona

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