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    Get a brake bleeder for $50 and use that. Just hook up to line, pump a few times and open the valve. Done.
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    Or install a recirculation valve. Bleed out any air that got into the lines by just pumping the brakes several times.

    http://www.dpiracingproducts.com/lc-...re-circulator/

    Or even fancier:

    http://www.dpiracingproducts.com/dpi-sure-stop-ii/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymousetech View Post
    Or install a recirculation valve. Bleed out any air that got into the lines by just pumping the brakes several times.

    http://www.dpiracingproducts.com/lc-...re-circulator/

    Or even fancier:

    http://www.dpiracingproducts.com/dpi-sure-stop-ii/
    I'm just gonna put that on my do want list...
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    So what pad do you guys recommend for an AutoX/Track car? I have Hawk Blues and I really cook them at the track but they take a lap and a half to heat up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggedrabbit View Post
    So what pad do you guys recommend for an AutoX/Track car? I have Hawk Blues and I really cook them at the track but they take a lap and a half to heat up.
    2 sets of pads.

    HP+ for Auto-X
    Blues or Black at the track.

    The HP+ squeel but fuck do they grab properly when cold.
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    XP10 any good cold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    2 sets of pads.

    HP+ for Auto-X
    Blues or Black at the track.

    The HP+ squeel but fuck do they grab properly when cold.
    I've been thinking of trying one of the DTC series pads too. I have issues with consistency due to temps at the track, to be honest.
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    I found the hawks sucked cold.

    Carbotech I'm a convert
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    Quote Originally Posted by wing View Post
    I found the hawks sucked cold.

    Carbotech I'm a convert
    Which compound you using on the street? Quiet? Dust?
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    Xp12 front 10 rear. Dust is okay.

    Squeals like a pig being run over constantly. Like insanely loud but I can't hear it with the windows up
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    Quote Originally Posted by wing View Post
    Xp12 front 10 rear. Dust is okay.

    Squeals like a pig being run over constantly. Like insanely loud but I can't hear it with the windows up
    Lots of bite? Does the feel change as they get hot?

    Have you tried to fade them or had them fade? i.e. for bedding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wing View Post
    Xp12 front 10 rear. Dust is okay.

    Squeals like a pig being run over constantly. Like insanely loud but I can't hear it with the windows up
    Gee, that sounds reasonable on the street.
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    Rabbit is running a race car he doesn't care. I don't really either, too bad for ppl with Windows down.

    They bite hard cold and hot, feel the same really. Even dead cold they will lock the tires.
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    Personally I don't see the point of HP+. DTC60 is far superior. Better bite, handle high temps better, and last longer. They're fine for street, and whisper quiet in comparison to HP+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wing View Post
    Rabbit is running a race car he doesn't care. I don't really either, too bad for ppl with Windows down.

    They bite hard cold and hot, feel the same really. Even dead cold they will lock the tires.
    True. I had HP+ on for a week and could not stand the noise.
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    The dtc60 are quiet but not great cold. OK on the street I guess but found at autox I wanted more bite
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    So, XP10 is not terrible then.

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    Yeah, noise and dust is not a problem. Car is light so I doubt even a high wearing pad would last less than a year, no problems there.

    All my brake steel is blue and purple and I've had the liner come off the backing on the Hawk blues in the past though, so I know they get hot. And I'd like to AutoX this year, so they need to work cold.
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    DTC 60 and 70 are designed to work from 400-1600F, So no, you wont have any bite or feel when cold, DTC30 is from 100-1200F, much better suited for what you guys are asking for. They have come out with new street compounds this year, but the website is terrible and gives no useable info yet.

    HP+ to DTC 60 is the low to high end temp range of hawk pads, you have 8 temp compounds between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raggedrabbit View Post
    So, XP10 is not terrible then.

    k thanks!

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    FWIW I'm running XP8 now (street tires) and AutoX seems fine.

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