Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 119
  1. #1
    CHAMP 1Morelap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    in a van down by the river.
    Posts
    29,360
    Rep Power
    2147787

    Default drones. why are they scary?

    ugh, Jones brown insurance now bans them. no dice for drone footage at a 1morelap event.

    coles: dammit.

    Rant : I've read the rules set out by CASC, I've seen the hurdles Ferd had to go through for RSO. My opinion is the decision makers don't know what it is, don't know how it works, made assumptions, think its scary and when that happens, instant ban. Where is the report showing how dangerous these are? We are hurdling cars down a race track between walls. But flying robots are too risky?

    Once day they will be common place. Everyone will have one. Old guys like us will look stupid.

    We couldn't even use them at the ice race. I was driving over exhaust ( my own actually ), headlights ( not mine ) but a flying robot is banned because ________ What's the worst that happens? it falls on the track? The odds of running over car debris are the same. It's a distraction? you shouldn't be driving fast then.

    But if you knew how they work then you'd understand how they 'go home' when battery is low, when errors occur etc etc.

    #shakesfistintheair

    oh well. gopro on a stick it is.
    Calabogie GT1 Champion 2012 and 2013. Calabogie Cup Challenge Champion 2012 www.1morelap.ca

  2. #2
    MortgaGeoff
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    3,666
    Rep Power
    969640

    Default

    What about real helicopters? Those are okay still, right?
    Geoff Chislett
    Principal Broker, Mortgage Alliance Ottawa
    gchislett@tmacc.com
    613-227-8813 x.101
    "Ask me how you could win $100,000"

  3. #3
    Dramagnet Jethro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    :-\
    Posts
    34,292
    Rep Power
    2147832

    Default

    if you don't do gopro on a stick, what other job can i do at a 1morelap?

  4. #4
    Senior Member raggedrabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    6,639
    Rep Power
    2147555

    Default

    That is bazaar.

    BAN ALL THE THINGS
    161 - The Nefarious Rabbit
    86' MR2 - The Dirty Deuce
    91' CB250 - The 'Hawk
    76' CT90 - an heirloom

  5. #5

  6. #6
    Dramagnet Jethro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    :-\
    Posts
    34,292
    Rep Power
    2147832

    Default

    Anything this good must be illegal”

    That statement is largely true for most uses of drones, at least for the next year or two. In a nutshell, the law on civilian drone use in the United States is as follows:

    • The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) considers a drone to be an aircraft, whether it weighs 15,000 lbs. or 3 lbs. As odd as this seems, it has been challenged legally and upheld by the NTSB.
    • Unless a specific exemption applies, to operate in our national airspace (which means outdoors and off the ground) the equipment needs to satisfy FAA airworthiness standards, the operator needs to meet FAA licensing requirements, and the operation must comport to the same airspace rules as a Cessna 172 or Airbus A380. Yes, really.
    • The FAA is developing rules to govern the airworthiness certification of drones, the licensure of operators (pilots) and proper use in U.S. airspace; but those rules are unlikely to become law until well into 2016.

  7. #7
    Member insaner6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    4,988
    Rep Power
    1348396

    Default

    What about private drone usage that just accidentally kinda sorta happens to record a 1morelap event

    I don't think calabogie is listed as a no-fly list, not sure on aerial trespassing but if someone unaffiliated with you or the track was using it for fun (ie: not commercial, which does require transport canada approval as well as insurance) and just GAVE you the videos...

    jusssayin?

  8. #8
    Dramagnet Jethro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    :-\
    Posts
    34,292
    Rep Power
    2147832

    Default

    drones weren't allowed at Ted Powell or IMSA last season at CMP.

  9. #9
    CHAMP 1Morelap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    in a van down by the river.
    Posts
    29,360
    Rep Power
    2147787

    Default

    The transport canada regs are actually not horrible. depending on weight class, you could do whatever you want.

    some of their rules however - no more than 90m up. ok. but no closer than 150m from people and cars. so, no over head shots?

    insurance/liability - two scariest words in motorsports and anything fun.
    Calabogie GT1 Champion 2012 and 2013. Calabogie Cup Challenge Champion 2012 www.1morelap.ca

  10. #10
    CHAMP 1Morelap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    in a van down by the river.
    Posts
    29,360
    Rep Power
    2147787

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
    drones weren't allowed at Ted Powell or IMSA last season at CMP.

    ya CASC did an instant ban when they saw a spectator having fun at mosport.
    Calabogie GT1 Champion 2012 and 2013. Calabogie Cup Challenge Champion 2012 www.1morelap.ca

  11. #11
    Senior Member raggedrabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    6,639
    Rep Power
    2147555

    Default

    Is a drone a self-controlled aircraft, or does it encompass all R/C flight? That is a big departure from just a few years ago if so. Perhaps the line is now drawn at FPV?

    Edit: NVM, the article covers it
    161 - The Nefarious Rabbit
    86' MR2 - The Dirty Deuce
    91' CB250 - The 'Hawk
    76' CT90 - an heirloom

  12. #12
    CHAMP 1Morelap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    in a van down by the river.
    Posts
    29,360
    Rep Power
    2147787

    Default

    think of it as a GPS device. it flies on coordinates, not a dude using a stick.
    Calabogie GT1 Champion 2012 and 2013. Calabogie Cup Challenge Champion 2012 www.1morelap.ca

  13. #13
    Elite Member Wookie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    21,749
    Rep Power
    2147711

    Default

    I think it also has to do with the word 'drone'. It's just a scary word due to sensationalization (that a word??) in the media.

    Like Greg said, there's far more danger/distractions in just the racing. The drivers just need to be told, if one is in your path, don't try to avoid.

  14. #14
    Dramagnet Jethro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    :-\
    Posts
    34,292
    Rep Power
    2147832

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Morelap View Post
    ya CASC did an instant ban when they saw a spectator having fun at mosport.
    lol. i've seen that procedure in action a few times.
    then when the guy on the radio doing the kill joy came down to watch the racing from the pit wall in shorts and flip flops I wouldn't let him by. "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" Lol, the pain in my fucking ass??

  15. #15
    Senior Member raggedrabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    6,639
    Rep Power
    2147555

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Morelap View Post
    no closer than 150m from people and cars. so, no over head shots?
    Off road motor vehicles (on race track) may be a grey area? Like people on an R/C field? To be fair, I wouldn't want to see a drone over the high way.
    161 - The Nefarious Rabbit
    86' MR2 - The Dirty Deuce
    91' CB250 - The 'Hawk
    76' CT90 - an heirloom

  16. #16
    Elite Member wing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Carp
    Posts
    22,848
    Rep Power
    2079720

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gchislett View Post
    What about real helicopters? Those are okay still, right?
    Yeah drones are bad, but being inside a world war 2 movie trailer is okay. copters so loud none of the marshals can hear the radios, or know if something bad happened on track.

    Don't understand why drones are so bad either.
    Driver for hire....

  17. #17
    Senior Member raggedrabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    6,639
    Rep Power
    2147555

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Morelap View Post
    think of it as a GPS device. it flies on coordinates, not a dude using a stick.
    Autonomous vehicles fall outside the hobbyist exception. I.e. all flight rules apply. Get someone on the stick and stay away from commercial use, no prahblem.
    161 - The Nefarious Rabbit
    86' MR2 - The Dirty Deuce
    91' CB250 - The 'Hawk
    76' CT90 - an heirloom

  18. #18
    Dramagnet Jethro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    :-\
    Posts
    34,292
    Rep Power
    2147832

    Default

    at a pro 6 day a cessna was flying back and forth above the track.

    turns out it was Anthony Fitz. the bike guys came into the pits freaking right the fuck out

    "THE PLANE IS IN MY SIGHT LINES I ALMOST DIED".

    Jane is on the radio "WHO IS IN THAT PLANE"

    fuck, I dunno, let me ask.

  19. #19
    Member Legacy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Carp Carp Fish
    Posts
    4,928
    Rep Power
    658375

    Default

    It's the RHD of toys..... Quick ban it.

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    7,534
    Rep Power
    1772674

    Default

    What if we just tie a string to your bumper and use a kite with a gopro?? Lol

    2760 Fenton Road
    (613) 822-6226
    nolimits@nolimitsautoparts.com

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •