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    NT-05's

    - cheap
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    - long lasting

    Got 2 summers out of them on the vette track days included. The're actually decent in the wet, thought they would be scary given the thread pattern but theyre not .

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    Interesting about the s drive they are rated same as PSS for treadwear so thought they would be close than junk status. If
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    You will hate the S Drives. They are hockey pucks. The PSS tread wear is some kind of black magic. I don't know how they get such good tread wear considering the amount of grip they have.
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    Treadwear != traction. :-)

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    This might be abit of a take over but, have any of you guys run a R888/nt01/V700s as DD tires? If so how much worse were they then a cheater tire(RS3/RE11/ZII/AD08/Rival)? I ask this as I found a wicked deal on R888s in the right size. I know very well that the addition in performance would be negligible on the street, I don't think I've even come to the limits of my RE11s on the street in the dry.

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    R888 is good, but not great in the rain. And they tramline like crazy on the street
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    I would put the RS3/Star Spec > R888.

    R888 is good for a couple of track days and then total and utter crap.
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    S. Fong (MCO guy with S2000) always ran R888's on his autox/track days for his s2000. by the fall, they'd be down.

    How much kms do you drive?

    NT01's and R888's are good overall.... but comparing tires is always subjective..... especially when you factor in everyone's experience and the type of cars (very light to heavy cars)... etc... so many factors.

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    R888 is a competition tire. It's meant to be fast once and then that's it. I'm sure new for new they are faster than RS3 but they will wear quick and after a few times, yeah they aren't much better anymore.

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    On my light and not too powerful miata, the 225/45 was faster than the RS3 for one track day. On day 2 (the next day), they were about the same. After that, the RS3 was better. Factor in cost and the answer is simple, unless you need to win a race on day 1, but even then, I'd take a Z214 over the R888 for even more grip at price between the R888 and RS3.

    Full disclosure, I've tried the R888, the R1R, and some Toyo snow tires. I hated them all. The snow tires got rough riding as they wore down and the R1R had a dual rubber compound where most of the tread was actually a hard, low-grip rubber. This construction was on the 225, but not on the 205. Did Toyo disclose that? No.

    I'm tempted to try an RA1, but leary of giving Toyo more of my money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmoo View Post
    On my light and not too powerful miata, the 225/45 was faster than the RS3 for one track day. On day 2 (the next day), they were about the same. After that, the RS3 was better. Factor in cost and the answer is simple, unless you need to win a race on day 1, but even then, I'd take a Z214 over the R888 for even more grip at price between the R888 and RS3.

    Full disclosure, I've tried the R888, the R1R, and some Toyo snow tires. I hated them all. The snow tires got rough riding as they wore down and the R1R had a dual rubber compound where most of the tread was actually a hard, low-grip rubber. This construction was on the 225, but not on the 205. Did Toyo disclose that? No.

    I'm tempted to try an RA1, but leary of giving Toyo more of my money.
    RA1s are good, but if you dont' want to buy Toyo, get NT01s. same compount IIRC, and good out of the box!
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    I loved my r888, in 225/45/15, as a track and daily tire. Did not like how the center tread wears out when inflated to 'proper' pressures.

    I asked in jameses thread: has anyone used rs3 and nt01 back to back?

    I'm excited for the new kumho v720 which should be out in the next couple months

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    My Continental ExtremeContact DW's (who thinks up these names?) are in! Thanks Slick. Going to get those bad boys mounted and start dreaming about lapping days. Come on, Spring?!! Where are you?

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    Officially it's Sunday I think.

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    Funny guy. That's when we move the clocks ahead. 21 March is the 1st calendar day of spring. Can't fool me! I want to see some stinkin' warm weather and a good melt before I say spring has sprung.

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa. You got me. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mphysk View Post
    I loved my r888, in 225/45/15, as a track and daily tire. Did not like how the center tread wears out when inflated to 'proper' pressures.

    I asked in jameses thread: has anyone used rs3 and nt01 back to back?

    I'm excited for the new kumho v720 which should be out in the next couple months
    Rs3s on the chumpcar and nt01s on race car. Different sizes and widths though so hard to say. I think the nt01s are slightly better though imo. Ask Jamie though if you can reach him: he had both on his e36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymousetech View Post
    Very lucky. They say "for competition use only" on the sidewall, which is specifically banned for road use in the HTA.

    DOT numbers don't make a difference.
    Just tell the cop that it doesn't mention what kind of competition... could be tire flipping competition.
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    So what kind of tire for a powerful 3500lbs car ?
    Looking for bang for the buck so half decent durability but I want lots of grip as well ?

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    Street tire NT05, Track tire NT01. Hard to do better for same money. Money to burn, V710

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