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    Default Official 2015 F1 Thread

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    Driving the wife's car.

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    That Williams is so light...it needs to be moving to actually touch the ground.

    The Force India is just last year's car with the new nose on it...at least they revealed a real car.

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    Is it just me but the front wing is massive and the rear is getting smaller every year?

    they still look great


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario View Post
    Is it just me but the front wing is massive and the rear is getting smaller every year?

    they still look great
    Ive noticed it too. I think with the newer rules on keeping the nose low it has reduced the downforce available on the front wing. So to make up for this, they add for elements to the front wing and it gets bigger. Maybe they are making more downforce with the diffuser is why the rear looks smaller???

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    Rear and front for sure has been mandated to be way smaller than in years past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daft_mx5 View Post
    Rear and front for sure has been mandated to be way smaller than in years past.
    Definitely.

    Plus I see 2 'front' wings.

    The main one at the end of the nose, and the one sticking out from the cockpit just behind the front wheels. That one must add a significant amount of downforce at speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie View Post
    Definitely.

    Plus I see 2 'front' wings.

    The main one at the end of the nose, and the one sticking out from the cockpit just behind the front wheels. That one must add a significant amount of downforce at speed.
    That's the floor, and it helps the rear diffuser generate downforce. It's not a wing.

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    I understand that. But look at the design. It's even angled from the tip to push the air up. Can't tell me that doesn't add downforce right under the drivers legs.

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    "the forward barge board you can see on the picture of Mercedes F1 car up, acts solely as a vortex generator. They're cambered like a wing. The rotational direction of that vortex will be counterclockwise, and because the vortex is traveling downward, it sends down-wash approaching the underbody, feeding it with additional air and acting as the curtain, which is very favorable."

    http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/undertray.html

    So no, it doesn't create downforce under the driver's legs, it helps rear downforce.

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    Jon, The "Barge boards" are the vertical pieces on the side of the car, and on older spec cars some of these were under the nose, but they would direct air out the side of the car. And yes they are vortex generators. The piece under the nose acts like a splitter and does provide some small downforce, but more importantly separates the air going under the floor to the rear diffuser. There are actually two diffusers on a flatbottom car. The flat floor is "raked" and acts like a diffuser (without side plates). The "splitter" piece just extends this feature and makes it longer.

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    Lotus unveils their mercedes powered E23

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    Maldonado is thinking how he can crash that right about now

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    He's just going to crash faster now. Mercedes VTEC effect.

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    I'm glad the new rule is going to fix all the wierd noses. I'd like to see a side view of that lotus


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