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    When did this become MidnightGeriatrics?

    Page 27 of the following: http://www.aim-sportline.com/downloa...lo_100_eng.pdf

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    Geriatrics!? Why can’t you just be nice


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    lol, I like the MRSchmoo.


    so I don't get why we need the same GPS locations ?
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    huh, there's a CTCC calabogie in the GPS manager.
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    If two timers/loggers are using different start/finish lines, the data gets off-set from one to the other.

    For example, Pat sent me his Solo's data log from our last trip to CMP. His start line was the one he set at the transponder cable, but mine was closer to the exit of 20.

    When I stacked our two best laps to compare, he appears to decelerate sooner for turn 1, gets on the power sooner, brakes sooner for two, etc.

    Had we used the same start line, both our laps would have started at the point and we'd better able to see what we were doing differently over the lap.

    Is that clear?
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    Added a CMP Full and a CMP East for download to the OP.
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    still not getting it. the track doesn't move, just line up graphs/maps with identical GPS coordinates?
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    Here are two screen caps of a lap comparison. The first uses mis-matched start-finish points.

    mismatch.png

    This one uses matched start-finish points, but the lap time is over 10 seconds slower
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    right, Pat is slowing down in 4 and 7 and 16. Really wish I understood the problem. anyhoo.

    how do I export my lap to you. obviously you'll have to slide it over to match the start point.

    downloaded your map.
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    Greg,

    How do you slide the log over to match the starting points?

    Exporting maps happens in GPS manager. check the map you want to export and hit the export button at the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario View Post
    Geriatrics!? Why can’t you just be nice
    You're asking why I can't be nice? Me? You've obviously not spent enough time with non-MR schmoo.

    It's just you and Geoff talking like a couple of old folk confused by the new fangled technology. LOL.

    Added ASE and SMP Long to the OP.
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    Dude, you’re trying to rally people to use AIM, just be nice. Don’t piss on people. Are we calling you names. I can use a computer just like you smart guy. I’m not confused, I have not tried. I’ve meet the non MRSchmoo, he’s much different then this guy here.


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    hmm, so the graph is based on time, not location ?
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    It's based on distance from the Start of the lap. If start is at T20 exit, the deceleration for T1 will much farther away from the start of the lap if Start is at the tower.

    You can base it on time, but then won't be able to compare laps of different durations as well.
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    [normal schmoo]

    Mario,

    I'm not actually suggesting that anyone should use an AiM system (although I would recommend their products).

    I'm merely suggesting, based on the knowledge that many have made the investment in Solo systems, that we use a common timing framework to provide for greater comparability between data logs.

    As for how to add/delete/select which track to use on a Solo unit, I can't offer any more insight than the published documentation as I do not own a unit. My unit is an older AiM MXL mated to a SmartyCAM HD GP. In my system, one uses AiM Software called "GPS Manager" to create and transfer tracks between computer and SmartyCAM HD. Selecting which track is can be done manually on the camera, or automatically by the camera based on GPS coordinates.

    In the absence of input from Solo owners, I can point you to some instructional videos on vimeo: http://vimeo.com/aimsports

    Also, here is AiM's documentation/download section: http://www.aim-sportline.com/eng/download/index.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario View Post
    Dude, you’re trying to rally people to use AIM, just be nice. Don’t piss on people. Are we calling you names. I can use a computer just like you smart guy. I’m not confused, I have not tried. I’ve meet the non MRSchmoo, he’s much different then this guy here.
    * gives head shake and blinks a few times *

    I'm being scolded, told to be nice, not to piss on people, and not to call people names... on MR? Yup, it says http://forums.midnightruns.com in the browser address bar. Yup.

    * give head another shake and looks over shoulder *

    Nope, I haven't been transported to an alternate dimesion. So I guess I will deploy non-MR schmoo as non-MR Mario seems to have commandeered the keyboard. Here goes... (see above)
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    hmm , my chart says time base in the top left corner. how do we change that ?
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    You two should make out.

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    This shows how to align two laps that don't have the same GPS beacons.



    Greg,

    In RS2, there should be a button to toggle between time and distance base. Look in the top left corner.
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    oooh under modify
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    Naresh, I (the only Mario) and we MR, get exactly what you’re doing. Just recognize who your friends are before pissing all over the place.


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