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t
October 26th, 2014, 10:08pm
looks like the MCO executive has been taken over by MR.

way to step up to the plate.

strong work.

fags.

t

Rainey94
October 26th, 2014, 10:20pm
Just read that e-mail, saw there was a Mani, same super fast, model Mani that is raved about on here? If so congrats!

Jethro
October 26th, 2014, 10:59pm
Come on out and vote me off the island. :-)

pyxen
October 26th, 2014, 11:20pm
I thought about tossing my hat in...no time for anything, so figured I'd have no time for that, too. Good luck with the takeover MR!

dbg
October 26th, 2014, 11:23pm
Bill isn't on here, is he???

Erwan
October 27th, 2014, 12:54am
Just read that e-mail, saw there was a Mani, same super fast, model Mani that is raved about on here? If so congrats!

Yeah this guy: 25721

schmoo
October 27th, 2014, 08:04am
Awesome guys. Pls confirm me as autox director, too.

wing
October 27th, 2014, 08:10am
Change the logo!

Jon.0
October 27th, 2014, 08:14am
Change the logo!

+1, but you'll get murdered by some old dudes if you do. Nobody wants to put a picture of a tractor tire on their car.

wing
October 27th, 2014, 08:21am
LOL I know, ask Greg.

But companies change logos all the time to update with the times.

Be about time... They should have changed it on their anniversary year.

mightymousetech
October 27th, 2014, 08:23am
Oh fuck, the drama with a logo change. Don't even start.

t
October 27th, 2014, 08:24am
Get Physk to hand draw the logo.

t

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 08:26am
From what I've experienced thus far they're looking for change and new ideas.
That's why I'm there.

I12XLR8
October 27th, 2014, 08:30am
I had an older guy come into Bells Corners for an oil change and asked if I would put up one of his posters. I did but never saw him again as I would have no problem putting one up in every store.

From talking to him it seemed to be an olde boys club. Glad they're bringing in fresh blood.

1Morelap
October 27th, 2014, 08:30am
lol logo wars. It might work this time around, most of the opponents to that quit the club anyway.

Good luck boys.

Here's my advice, get a new email account, avoid the politics and keep it fun (for you!)

Naresh- autox director is an appointed positions and has no voting power, it's not the same as these positions. - T just confirmed you as AX director of the cones. :)

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 08:33am
I had an older guy come into Bells Corners for an oil change and asked if I would put up one of his posters. I did but never saw him again as I would have no problem putting one up in every store.

From talking to him it seemed to be an olde boys club. Glad they're bringing in fresh blood.

I can get my hands on more posters if you can put them up.

1Morelap
October 27th, 2014, 08:35am
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_01.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_01.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_03.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_03.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_11.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_11.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_12.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_12.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_10.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_10.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_06.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_06.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_14.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_14.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_15.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_15.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_19.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_19.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_21.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_21.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/MCO_22.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/MCO_22.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/1morelap/sticker_04.jpg~original (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/1morelap/media/sticker_04.jpg.html)

Rainey94
October 27th, 2014, 08:36am
Get Physk to hand draw the logo.

t
I personally think MufflerBearings should do it after seeing his work in the other thread.
Edit: Mightymouse beat me to the idea...

Andre
October 27th, 2014, 08:40am
Tire helmet simple one is cool. Fresh looking

mikeman
October 27th, 2014, 08:42am
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that one looks neat to me.


looks like it contains fewer stuffed shirts.

Mario
October 27th, 2014, 08:45am
These are not logos. They are just another bunch of tire illustrations. Why change it if its going to be the same anyway. To complex, unreadable when small, hard to reproduce, etc. None meat basic logo requirements.

1Morelap
October 27th, 2014, 08:47am
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1185601_503602183047928_1591951443_n.jpg?oh=edac57 609b51fd1b2f9b231dd2a304b0&oe=54B2CC55&__gda__=1420973436_5b40e2b85f2e9f5e07c52454b026e8f b

I12XLR8
October 27th, 2014, 08:49am
My vote is for the helmet/tire one too. HSV ish

1Morelap
October 27th, 2014, 08:52am
Grant, old guy you met was Sam Mandia, he's one of the good ones, did he ask you for any door prizes? The clubs banquet always has great prizes from local shops.

I12XLR8
October 27th, 2014, 08:56am
I can get my hands on more posters if you can put them up.

Make it so.

3 please.

SpidermanGeek
October 27th, 2014, 08:58am
Tire helmet simple one is cool. Fresh looking

Yup, this. And the one above it for a little more of a "retro" look. Looks like it could belong on bomber or varsity style jackets.

wing
October 27th, 2014, 09:01am
I think this one makes the most sense because it is an evolution of the current design.

Casper
October 27th, 2014, 09:01am
Tire helmet simple one is cool. Fresh looking

tellum
October 27th, 2014, 09:01am
Same... tire/helmet logo.

schmoo
October 27th, 2014, 09:03am
Is it too late to join the party as a would-be director on the BoD? I think this could be a year for change.

1Morelap
October 27th, 2014, 09:06am
Is it too late to join the party as a would-be director on the BoD? I think this could be a year for change. club hasn't voted yet, why not. Let these guys know


Hi, I'm Steve Greiner, in my role as Chair of the Nominating Committee along with Ron Woltman and Dave Butler, we are pleased to present a slate of candidates that will direct MCO for the remainder of this year and 2015. Please come out and vote at the Annual General Meeting November 4th at Tifosi Lounge.

Blind
October 27th, 2014, 09:08am
My fav

I think this one makes the most sense because it is an evolution of the current design.

schmoo
October 27th, 2014, 09:23am
If you guys accomplish one thing this year, it must be the logo change.

t
October 27th, 2014, 09:36am
If you guys accomplish one thing this year, it must be the logo change.

the bar has been set.

luker
October 27th, 2014, 09:41am
We tried a logo change about 5-6 years ago, was a major battle. We did not win obviously, ask Seb and Greg about that. But with a new younger board, maybe there is a chance.

Who is running from MR and for what positions? I might rejoin MCO if things are changing.

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 09:43am
We tried a logo change about 5-6 years ago, was a major battle. We did not win obviously, ask Seb and Greg about that. But with a new younger board, maybe there is a chance.

Who is running from MR and for what positions? I might rejoin MCO if things are changing.

I was asked to run as a director (Jeff L).
I'm also the mco.org "webmaster", and am taking over membership stuff from Bill Olders.

On the website side of things - the present board has approved an overhaul of the website. That will be done this year.

luker
October 27th, 2014, 09:44am
25722
that one looks neat to me.


looks like it contains fewer stuffed shirts.

This. Clean and modern looking.

Scruffy
October 27th, 2014, 09:44am
Is it too late to join the party as a would-be director on the BoD? I think this could be a year for change.

Talk to Steve G. He's leading the nominating committee

condor888000
October 27th, 2014, 09:44am
Mani, Erwin, Scruffy and Jeff are running for Director. Bill Olders for president, John Hodge for V.P, Rob Switzer for Treasurer.

luker
October 27th, 2014, 09:48am
Other than Olders for President, that is a refreshing list. Odd that Rob Switzer from Kingston is running for a board position, great guy though and he has many years of experience being involved in club organization both with MCO and ST-Lac. Also has lots of family members with experience.

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 09:48am
In related news: Ogilvie Subaru is offering 10 % off parts for MCO Members with proof of membership. Will be posted on the website sometime today.

NoLimits Autoparts
October 27th, 2014, 09:50am
25722
that one looks neat to me.


looks like it contains fewer stuffed shirts.


I like this one, You have to keep the tire in the logo to maintain the association to the old logo imo.

NoLimits Autoparts
October 27th, 2014, 09:50am
Well fer fawks sakes

Lizard King
October 27th, 2014, 09:56am
We tried a logo change about 5-6 years ago, was a major battle. We did not win obviously, ask Seb and Greg about that. But with a new younger board, maybe there is a chance.

Who is running from MR and for what positions? I might rejoin MCO if things are changing.


LOL!!! Tell me about it. Old man almost crying. Life not worth living. Insulting to even consider changing a symbol of institution... blablabla...

Nevermind, you are crabby enough to keep your crabby logo.

You guys probably don't know this but I did manage to squeeze in a very minor improvement with a director. He hatted the tire grooves on the side. I mean which car has truck tires? LOL! So we reduced them a fraction.

I did this like 10 years ago.

Suggested to olde crabberonies that maybe the logo was forgotten behind and needed help.

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schmoo
October 27th, 2014, 09:57am
Spoke to Bill Olders, I'm putting my hat in the ring for a Director Seat.

Lizard King
October 27th, 2014, 09:59am
MOAR - like I said I ... did this back in 2005.

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Lizard King
October 27th, 2014, 10:02am
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Manimillion
October 27th, 2014, 10:02am
Hopefully a lot of positive changes to come. Don't look at it only from a lapping/autocross perspective, MCO does a lot more than just lapping/autocross events. Aside from a director role (if elected), I do have a lot of marketing expertise that I could help MCO to get their name out, gain more members, and work with the local automotive community to benefit both members and the retailers.

1Morelap
October 27th, 2014, 10:04am
lol yup, I didn't even post all of them on the other page. Jeez, that long ago.

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 10:05am
Hopefully a lot of positive changes to come. Don't look at it only from a lapping/autocross perspective, MCO does a lot more than just lapping/autocross events. Aside from a director role (if elected), I do have a lot of marketing expertise that I could help MCO to get their name out, gain more members, and work with the local automotive community to benefit both members and the retailers.

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Mani, we should chat. Bill wants some creative new ideas to build membership. And, I'll have the 'keys' to that role.

schmoo
October 27th, 2014, 10:07am
Sooo many of those are sooo awesome.

luker
October 27th, 2014, 10:07am
Was it really in 2005 we had that fight? It thought it was more like 2009. Wow. Loved a lot of those options back then.

Lizard King
October 27th, 2014, 10:08am
I did some many cool things for this club.

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Lizard King
October 27th, 2014, 10:13am
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NoLimits Autoparts
October 27th, 2014, 10:15am
It took me 10 years of asking to finally get a full size poster from MCO to put on the wall to help promote the MCO, So many car enthusiasts now nothing about one of the oldest car clubs in Canada. So that was a great start.

Every speed shop in this city should be given one and ask if it can be displayed. There is so much we can do as shops to help promote the club.

Lizard King
October 27th, 2014, 10:17am
lol yup, I didn't even post all of them on the other page. Jeez, that long ago.


Good ol' positive Greg. Yur old!

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 10:34am
wow seb. very nice stuff.

mikeman
October 27th, 2014, 10:45am
ya we gave hats a few times, nobody came in to buy parts. MR has been much better, and I don't have to put up a plaque with a tractor tire behind the parts counter.

snail
October 27th, 2014, 10:51am
MOO

mightymousetech
October 27th, 2014, 11:39am
Motorsport Oldtimers of Ottawa?

Ian
October 27th, 2014, 12:37pm
Good to see a bunch of new blood looking to step up!


On the website side of things - the present board has approved an overhaul of the website. That will be done this year.

Let me know if you need a hand ... I'm pretty decent at building anything for the intertubes.

Northern Rider
October 27th, 2014, 02:21pm
The MCO refresh was long overdue !

pyxen
October 27th, 2014, 03:21pm
I'll try to come on the 4th to make my voice heard, and get put some more weight behind the MR Board.

97gst
October 27th, 2014, 04:10pm
Time for hostile takeover.

Present a united front, vote to rename the club MR, and make all the old farts log in and post lesbians or they are banned from all activities.

schmoo
October 27th, 2014, 04:12pm
Time for hostile takeover.

Present a united front, vote to rename the club MR, and make all the old farts log in and post lesbians or they are banned from all activities.

LMAO!

pyxen
October 27th, 2014, 07:41pm
Time for hostile takeover.

Present a united front, vote to rename the club MR, and make all the old farts log in and post lesbians or they are banned from all activities.

...imagine the faces at the banquet! Barbie jeep races and bonfires...jumping honda carollas...the beards.

Mario
October 27th, 2014, 07:43pm
Good luck to the new executive :drum:Well done gentlemen

Gojira
October 27th, 2014, 08:26pm
Haven't renewed my membership in years so I was surprised to receive the email last night. Seeing the names made me smile. Good luck guys, hope the coup goes through. I'll renew this year :)

I12XLR8
October 27th, 2014, 09:16pm
Grant, old guy you met was Sam Mandia, he's one of the good ones, did he ask you for any door prizes? The clubs banquet always has great prizes from local shops.

He told me that his prize guy would contact me if I was interested in donating anything but I never heard back. Super nice guy.

I have never done anything on MCO...but if MR is taking over I'll become a member. Just to be doing what the cool kids are doing.

I12XLR8
October 27th, 2014, 09:19pm
In related news: Ogilvie Subaru is offering 10 % off parts for MCO Members with proof of membership. Will be posted on the website sometime today.

Can I get in on this goodness? I'll offer the same deal at Mr. Lube and can talk to the other franchisee in Ottawa to see if he'll match it.

Jethro
October 27th, 2014, 09:20pm
Can I get in on this goodness? I'll offer the same deal at Mr. Lube and can talk to the other franchisee in Ottawa to see if he'll match it.

I will connect you with the sponsorship guy.

Mario
October 27th, 2014, 09:20pm
Small world. I’ve met Sam in my industry some 20 years ago. He was racing a formula car at the time, sponsored by is company.

Manimillion
October 27th, 2014, 10:30pm
Anyone who is an MCO member should vote by proxy for the directors.

runwhatyabrung
October 27th, 2014, 10:31pm
...

Here's my advice, get a new email account, avoid the politics and keep it fun (for you!) ...



X10 from someone who was on Board of directors for 1 year and VP :wacko: for another (yeah I'm that old) It's the old guard that bogs it all down. Let's all live in the past where wire wheels were the best.

dbg
October 27th, 2014, 10:34pm
Every club goes through this sort of thing. Been there, done that. Best thing you can do is wipe the slate (of directors) clean. Young Turks FTW.

karmaboy
October 28th, 2014, 05:20am
FWIW...the old guys come from the Steve McQueen era...strap on a football helmet and take your MG (no rollbar) to the Gatineau's for a Hillclimb.
The ladies loved them and the every guy wanted to be them.
It was a simpler time.

Now "car people" are vilified as eco monsters and street racers.
Want to hold an event? You need insurance out the wazzoo...and people will still bitch about the cost for a weekend of racing.
Oh yeah...the only insurance you can get is through an even worse national club, rife with politics, questionable financials and a belief that Toronto is the center of the universe.
Then you need to babysit and coddle a member's ego because he has a fast car, but no sense how to control it.
God forbid he kills himself or even worse someone else at your event. Get ready for a shit storm...and the end of the largest/oldest club in Canada.

God bless you guys for stepping up.
Just remember these old guys have been trying to keep the club solvent and out of trouble in a increasingly hostile environment.
I get a sense that there is a new energy in the scene...the Gentleman racing, unsanctioned lapping (1morelap), etc...that could mean that the club can go in a new direction.

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 07:07am
If you can't be at the nov 4 AGM complete the voting proxy form to ensure your vote counts.

http://www.mco.org/cms/attachments/005_MCO%20voting%20proxy.pdf

Mario
October 28th, 2014, 07:47am
In a couple of years, the youngest of them all, will be in there 70s. Things will change that they/you want it or not. Real change in my opinion, usually happens parallel to old organisations. Change is like a train that goes by. You can't stop it. Politics can’t stop it. Sometimes you wish you were young enough to jump onboard.

Manimillion
October 28th, 2014, 09:22am
If you can't be at the nov 4 AGM complete the voting proxy form to ensure your vote counts.

http://www.mco.org/cms/attachments/005_MCO%20voting%20proxy.pdf

+1

schmoo
October 28th, 2014, 09:24am
I added the BoD bios to the MCO forum, along with the proxy link etc. I also info on my Facebook page.

Odd that MCO didn't do that itself.

figo
October 28th, 2014, 10:18am
I signed up for the MCO a very long time ago, I was told to fuck a goat or something lol

97gst
October 28th, 2014, 10:20am
I added the BoD bios to the MCO forum, along with the proxy link etc. I also info on my Facebook page.
Odd that MCO didn't do that itself.

http://sites.duke.edu/digitaldivide/files/2013/11/OldManComputer_-_social_what-ia.jpeg

1Morelap
October 28th, 2014, 10:26am
Odd that MCO didn't do that itself.

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Blind
October 28th, 2014, 10:27am
I signed up for the MCO a very long time ago, I was told to fuck a goat or something lol

Rainey94
October 28th, 2014, 10:41am
I believe I was shunned from the MCO forum for posting something about some time I drove around in a parking lot or something....

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 12:02pm
I added the BoD bios to the MCO forum, along with the proxy link etc. I also info on my Facebook page.

Odd that MCO didn't do that itself.

I added the info to the mco.org main page this morning.

schmoo
October 28th, 2014, 12:13pm
I added the info to the mco.org main page this morning.

Can't wait to see that site blown-up and done again. So glad to hear it's getting done.

MufflerBearings
October 28th, 2014, 12:14pm
is this like JCO?

Angry Chicken
October 28th, 2014, 12:15pm
This is a great thread and good news for MCO! I'm usually not trolling this sub-forum though. Maybe the mods can put it somewhere under General Membership for more exposure?

I enjoy the MCO-run HPDEs, but that's about it. MCO has to do something more relevant and even edgy to make me want to come out to the meetings.

Maybe more prominent affiliations / co-promotions with for-profits like CMP and some of the race gear retailers, energy drink companies, etc., would be a good start. MCO-organized trips to races like IndyCar, NASCAR and F1 would be neat. Even renting a screen at a local cinema to watch an F1 race on a Sunday morning over coffee and breakfast items. I'm looking forward to the new blood. Hope it doesn't dim MR's bulb having so many contributors from here at MCO. Might have to start using secret pseudonyms and hand shakes.

Should be a good ride. Thanks for volunteering guys!

luker
October 28th, 2014, 12:30pm
Sounds like angrychicken just volunteered to help organize events. :)

And that folks is what it takes. Five people on the board will get burnt out quickly if no one else steps up to help run events.

Erwan
October 28th, 2014, 12:30pm
I was thinking this morning they should just make the board 5 members instead of 4.

There are 4 spots, 5 people who want to donate their time and energy to help the club by being directors, why essentially vote one person out? If there were 10,20,30 people for the spots an election would make more sense.

/dontwanttogetvotedofftheisland

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 12:31pm
Angry chicken brings up a lot of great points. MCO I think has lost some of its relevance for some (many?). I think the first step is to solicit ideas and suggestions from the membership on what needs to be improved or changed.

I'm going to guess that it won't be that difficult to make some significant changes, to turn the page so to speak.

luker
October 28th, 2014, 12:35pm
The BoD is made up of the Pres, VP, Treasurer and 4 directors. Past-president may also get a vote but I don't remember.

Those of you running need to look at the bylaws and look at what can and cannot be done. This is an incorporated entity and with that come rules that must be followed.

1Morelap
October 28th, 2014, 12:42pm
Yup, read over the bylaws, or better yet ask for the minutes from the last annual gen meeting to see if any bylaws changed.

and its about to get very dry in here.

Blind
October 28th, 2014, 12:42pm
Why do I want to be part of the MCO?

luker
October 28th, 2014, 12:46pm
bylaws document (http://www.mco.org/cms/attachments/005_MCO%20BYLAWS%20v.1.pdf)

luker
October 28th, 2014, 12:49pm
Ooohhhh....Pat McDermott was removed as President incorrectly....tee hee...<not a current MCO member, but might reconsider with the new blood coming in>

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 12:52pm
Pat resigned. AFAIK.

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 12:52pm
Why do I want to be part of the MCO?

Why not?

mightymousetech
October 28th, 2014, 12:53pm
It's where all the cool kids are.

schmoo
October 28th, 2014, 12:54pm
1st order of business. have bylaws rewritten by someone who can write!

wing
October 28th, 2014, 12:56pm
LOL -- not that I have read the bylaws, but bylaws are actual laws that need to be written a specific way in compliance with Canadian Corporation law.

I just copied the example on the govy website for mine and swore them into effect. It's more political than you may think.

Blind
October 28th, 2014, 12:57pm
Why not?
Was a SRS question. What does mco offer over Mr?

RandomHer0
October 28th, 2014, 12:58pm
Seriousness.

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 12:58pm
Was a SRS question. What does mco offer over Mr?

You have hit the nail on the head my rockvegas friend.

Scruffy
October 28th, 2014, 01:00pm
Was a SRS question. What does mco offer over Mr?

Sanctioned racing events.

luker
October 28th, 2014, 01:00pm
Pat resigned. AFAIK.
Ah no. He was asked to resign, very different.

sb_915
October 28th, 2014, 01:00pm
if you want to get your race licence (which most of you don't), you need to part of a CASC-affiliated club. MCO is.

Discounts on events (although no more discounts for lapping days because numbers were down)....

other than that.... i dunno.

Blind
October 28th, 2014, 01:01pm
Seriousness.
Ah. K.

Why I was rejected in the 1st place. [emoji1]

I'll stick with MR, and 1morelap.....

sb_915
October 28th, 2014, 01:02pm
Ah no. He was asked to resign, very different.

Pat came back as president when no one else stepped up IIRC. Just glad that if this is in fact true, someone is willing to fill his shoes.

luker
October 28th, 2014, 01:02pm
Was a SRS question. What does mco offer over Mr?
From an organizational perspective a lot. Including things like affiliation to sanctioning bodies, directors insurance, liability insurance, the ability to organized sanctioned events. And more.

From a Joe Schmoe member perspective, affiliation to sanctioning bodies that allow us to race and do other Motorsports activities with legitimacy.

luker
October 28th, 2014, 01:05pm
Pat came back as president when no one else stepped up IIRC. Just glad that if this is in fact true, someone is willing to fill his shoes.
Pat was asked to step down in July or August. Friction on the board because of Ted Powell race weekend mis-management. Other directors did not support him when he wanted accountability.

Andre
October 28th, 2014, 01:06pm
I'll stick with MR


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2036335/big-floppy-donkey-dick-o.gif

Blind
October 28th, 2014, 01:07pm
Lol

JLats83
October 28th, 2014, 01:08pm
Lol

1Morelap
October 28th, 2014, 01:08pm
Lol

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 01:09pm
LMAO

Angry Chicken
October 28th, 2014, 01:26pm
1MoreDick

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 01:33pm
1bigdick

JLats83
October 28th, 2014, 01:34pm
Dat ass

Mario
October 28th, 2014, 01:36pm
Ostie de calice

NTIMD8
October 28th, 2014, 01:41pm
I like the last logo because of the typo.

schmoo
October 28th, 2014, 02:04pm
In addition to the above:

Autox
Snowx
Ice races
Lapping
HPDE
Winter Driving Schools

wing
October 28th, 2014, 02:06pm
Rally

Adam
October 28th, 2014, 02:13pm
Wife swapping

Andre
October 28th, 2014, 02:14pm
MR Xmas party

Andre
October 28th, 2014, 02:14pm
Word association thread

1Morelap
October 28th, 2014, 02:15pm
always wanted to wear a yellow shirt with a green vest for halloween.

Gojira
October 28th, 2014, 02:16pm
I joined the MCO years ago because I wanted the discount on their CMP lapping days. Joined it, attended a couple, then realized I'd rather just go to Greg's events and hang out at MR, so I let my membership run out. I'm not into autoX, winter school etc so I didn't see much point in the club. Now that it's turning into the cool cats club I might rejoin just to support a local institution on principle.

mikeman
October 28th, 2014, 02:33pm
I had one for slush an slide, and every time i've thought about going to a TSD rally or an autoX. . . and that one time I did the rallyX in Bancroft. . but always let it lapse in between because I prefer doing cool stuff, rather than talking about the proper way to ice a parking lot.

I12XLR8
October 28th, 2014, 02:37pm
I'm not into autoX, winter school etc so I didn't see much point in the club. Now that it's turning into the cool cats club I might rejoin just to support a local institution on principle.

Yep. Lol at donkey dick...that's why MR>MCO

RandomHer0
October 28th, 2014, 02:38pm
MR = Why we cant have nice things.

wing
October 28th, 2014, 02:53pm
With MCO you have a club with 400 members and the same 20 people that organize everything.

Kind of nuts, glad new peeps are stepping up.

dbg
October 28th, 2014, 04:16pm
MCO got me hooked on motorsports via AutoX. I'd be happy to volunteer to help at some point in the future... given my current workload I can't.

I've previously gone through the whole volunteering thing with a large organization. I started out getting involved in the local chapter, and eventually somehow ended up as national President of an organization with thousands of members and a couple of dozen chapters. I can tell you that the volunteer situation people are describing here is far from unique.

No matter how big the club is, a dozen or so people do all the work. It's easy to criticize and tell these volunteers what they should be doing... but it's far more effective - and far more appreciated by all concerned - to step up and get 'er done. If no one steps up, people start to burn out and things stop happening.

The golden rule of volunteer organizations is: if you think things need to change, step up or shut up.

Kudos to all the people here who stepped up.

:like:

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 04:52pm
If people are in a volunteering mood we need more licensed officials in many areas. That would help tremendously. I have 3 licensed put lane officials but ideally I need at least 6. I can train and license in Ottawa for that, and equipment is provided by MCO. Am looking forward to see how things go at the AGM.

Angry Chicken
October 28th, 2014, 08:34pm
If people are in a volunteering mood we need more licensed officials in many areas. That would help tremendously. I have 3 licensed put lane officials but ideally I need at least 6. I can train and license in Ottawa for that, and equipment is provided by MCO. Am looking forward to see how things go at the AGM.



What's involved? Any chance that this would lead to opportunities at professional events, too? Very interested. Send deets please.

Jethro
October 28th, 2014, 08:56pm
What's involved? Any chance that this would lead to opportunities at professional events, too? Very interested. Send deets please.

You are licensed after one race weekend (2 days) @ the "b" level. A written test is required. I can send you the training manual, it gives you a good overview. And yes, you can work at pro events. I have done Honda Indy, and have contacts for ALMS if you're interested. We get IMSA at CMP as well, I need people for that.

1Morelap
October 28th, 2014, 08:59pm
What's involved? Any chance that this would lead to opportunities at professional events, too? Very interested. Send deets please.

of course. Many of these folks work the F1 and Indy Race weekends. My dad did this, doesn't take long to qualify.

Angry Chicken
October 28th, 2014, 09:09pm
You are licensed after one race weekend (2 days) @ the "b" level. A written test is required. I can send you the training manual, it gives you a good overview. And yes, you can work at pro events. I have done Honda Indy, and have contacts for ALMS if you're interested. We get IMSA at CMP as well, I need people for that.



That would be great. Thanks. Let's do 'er!

mightymousetech
October 29th, 2014, 08:19am
of course. Many of these folks work the F1 and Indy Race weekends. My dad did this, doesn't take long to qualify.

Working in pit lane during an F1 race is Fawking Sweet! No longer have my FIA licence though.

pyxen
October 29th, 2014, 08:43am
You are licensed after one race weekend (2 days) @ the "b" level. A written test is required. I can send you the training manual, it gives you a good overview. And yes, you can work at pro events. I have done Honda Indy, and have contacts for ALMS if you're interested. We get IMSA at CMP as well, I need people for that.

One day when I'm grey I'll have time to have fun like this.

tellum
October 29th, 2014, 09:37am
Interested for sure, but don't think I can commit the time right now. :(

luker
October 29th, 2014, 10:06am
Interested for sure, but don't think I can commit the time right now. :(

Sorry but that excuse doesn't wash with me anymore. If people are really interested they make time to commit, otherwise it's just noise.

And that is true of all the people that VOLUNTEER their time to help make an event happen. They commit time because they love doing the work. All of them have families, responsibilities, jobs and whatever else. I know a guy in North Carolina that volunteers as a marshal at VIR, he uses most of his vacations days to drive up and volunteer on Friday test days so that he can be at the track 3 days per weekend something like 18 weekends a year.

If you are interested make the time.

daft_mx5
October 29th, 2014, 10:08am
Lol.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 10:10am
Lol.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 10:14am
why is that funny?
because it's true?

tellum
October 29th, 2014, 10:19am
LOL.

You've never wanted to do something, but not had the time?

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 10:20am
If I really want to do something I make the time.

daft_mx5
October 29th, 2014, 10:21am
Sorry.
Not everyone can justify the time to be at a track so much, let alone 18 3 day weekends in a year.
Doesn't mean they wouldn't love to be able to if they could.

tellum
October 29th, 2014, 10:22am
Priorities, brah. Anyway, ya. Hopefully you find some good volunteers.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 10:22am
Sorry.
Not everyone can justify the time to be at a track so much, let alone 18 3 day weekends in a year.
Doesn't mean they wouldn't love to be able to if they could.

that's an extreme example.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 10:23am
Priorities, brah. Anyway, ya. Hopefully you find some good volunteers.

if you were available for one race weekend a year that would be fantastic.
more than that I'd be ecstatic.

luker
October 29th, 2014, 10:34am
^This, what Jethro said.

Without this it is always the same 10-15 people that make shit happen.

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 10:38am
I'm with Luke and Jethro. "I would love to do that but can't" there are a few examples where that cuts it (mostly once kids are involved). But in general, it's a cop out. Like anything, you wanna make shit happen? Make shit happen. If you really would LOVE to do something, you will find a way. Most people are talkers, there are very few doers. Doers, I salute thee.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 10:40am
Sorry.
Not everyone can justify the time to be at a track so much, let alone 18 3 day weekends in a year.
Doesn't mean they wouldn't love to be able to if they could.
Srsly. I wish I had that kind of time available. Its just impossible.

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 10:45am
if you were available for one race weekend a year that would be fantastic.
more than that I'd be ecstatic.


Srsly. I wish I had that kind of time available. Its just impossible.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 10:45am
Mark these dates in your calendars early boys:

MCO is organising a second CASC Regional Race at Calabogie Motorsports Park on May 30-31, 2015 and the Ted Powell Race Event is scheduled for August 22-23, 2015.
In addition there will be an IMSA weekend dates TBD. Most likely July.

If you can do one weekend that would be great. For my own area I need to grow the team from the current count of 3 to at minimum 6.

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 10:46am
What's the minimum age?

Mark these dates in your calendars early boys:

MCO is organising a second CASC Regional Race at Calabogie Motorsports Park on May 30-31, 2015 and the Ted Powell Race Event is scheduled for August 22-23, 2015.
In addition there will be an IMSA weekend dates TBD. Most likely July.

If you can do one weekend that would be great. For my own area I need to grow the team from the current count of 3 to at minimum 6.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 10:48am
Glad you know my schedule and priorities so well. Lol

Andre
October 29th, 2014, 10:48am
Suggestion since there's obviously a lot of MCO events — have a shareable google calendar people can plug into theirs/their mobile calendar.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 10:50am
Good idea, that's how the wife and coordinate our lives

Scruffy
October 29th, 2014, 10:50am
^ Was just about to find the TPRW info... Shit is almost a year down the road.

Jobs you can do:
- Organiser (can't help on the weekend, help on your own time doing some of the administrative work leading up to the event)
- Paddock Organiser (the day or two before the event, helping to get people settled into their paddock spaces)
- Paddock Marshall (basically rent-a-cop style duties, get a golf cart, keep the paddock clean/safe, help people find people)
- Pit Lane Marshall (bit more involved, keep the grids safe)
- Scrutineer (Check for cheaters)

Benefits
- Free Meals
- Free Lodging

Scruffy
October 29th, 2014, 10:51am
What's the minimum age?
For paddock marshall... can their feet touch the pedals on a golf cart? :lol:

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 10:52am
lol obviously I don't. But is all honestly, think about your schedule right now, could you honestly say that in 6 months from now you couldn't afford a single day or a weekend for something you really love and want to do? Given your line of work maybe you really couldn't because your busy times conflict with when you'd need to volunteer... but what im getting at, is, even if that's the case, you can see that the majority of people don't have the same type of time commitment, and could do that.. again, if they REALLY wanted to.
Glad you know my schedule and priorities so well. Lol

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 10:52am
Suggestion since there's obviously a lot of MCO events have a shareable google calendar people can plug into theirs/their mobile calendar.

there is a google calendar integrated into the MCO website. I'm not sure how it's shareable. I will look into it and get back to you.

tellum
October 29th, 2014, 10:54am
I'm with Luke and Jethro. "I would love to do that but can't" there are a few examples where that cuts it (mostly once kids are involved). But in general, it's a cop out. Like anything, you wanna make shit happen? Make shit happen. If you really would LOVE to do something, you will find a way. Most people are talkers, there are very few doers. Doers, I salute thee.
Ya, that.


there is a google calendar integrated into the MCO website. I'm not sure how it's shareable. I will look into it and get back to you.
:like:

figo
October 29th, 2014, 11:04am
I would love too, but l would spend all day thinking "I want to be out there racing instead".

sb_915
October 29th, 2014, 11:04am
Sorry but that excuse doesn't wash with me anymore. If people are really interested they make time to commit, otherwise it's just noise.

And that is true of all the people that VOLUNTEER their time to help make an event happen. They commit time because they love doing the work. All of them have families, responsibilities, jobs and whatever else. I know a guy in North Carolina that volunteers as a marshal at VIR, he uses most of his vacations days to drive up and volunteer on Friday test days so that he can be at the track 3 days per weekend something like 18 weekends a year.

If you are interested make the time.

Maybe the excuse should be

"I am interested for sure, but there are too many other more interesting things in my life right now to also make time for this one"

tellum
October 29th, 2014, 11:07am
Not necessarily 'more interesting' but maybe more important, or more conducive to avoiding a divorce?

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 11:07am
fixed.

Maybe the excuse should be

"I am interested for sure, but there are too many other more interesting things in my life right now to also make time for this one. But I'll likely end up doing none of them and instead sit at home talking about other things I would love to do if i could just find the time"

Andre
October 29th, 2014, 11:07am
... In other words don't have time

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 11:07am
wife should invest in the things you LOVE to do :P

Not necessarily 'more interesting' but maybe more important, or more conducive to avoiding a divorce?

runwhatyabrung
October 29th, 2014, 11:08am
I think people a taking Luker's comments a little to harshly. It is definitely true that you will find the time to do the things that you love at the expense of something else. For most people that means that they have to stop doing something else in order to be able to do this: If they are not willing, then obviously these other things in their life is more important to them at that point (and rightfully so). At the end someone saying I wish I had more time to do these things is indeed just noise until this new one becomes a priority for you to do. (not judging on anyone's priorities) You do in life what is important to you

sb_915
October 29th, 2014, 11:10am
I think people a taking Luker's comments a little to harshly. It is definitely true that you will find the time to do the things that you love at the expense of something else. For most people that means that they have to stop doing something else in order to be able to do this: If they are not willing, then obviously these other things in their life is more important to them at that point (and rightfully so). At the end someone saying I wish I had more time to do these things is indeed just noise until this new one becomes a priority for you to do. (not judging on anyone's priorities) You do in life what is important to you

Exactly.

I spent a couple years of 5 weekends/winter at capital city speedway organizing the SnowX. And honestly, that was no where NEAR what GregK & the grooming team spent. Just didn't want to take/have time to do it last year with the house & chumpcar build -this winter is looking like it's going to be the same.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 11:11am
Love the assumptions.

Angry Chicken
October 29th, 2014, 11:12am
Sorry but that excuse doesn't wash with me anymore. If people are really interested they make time to commit, otherwise it's just noise.

And that is true of all the people that VOLUNTEER their time to help make an event happen. They commit time because they love doing the work. All of them have families, responsibilities, jobs and whatever else. I know a guy in North Carolina that volunteers as a marshal at VIR, he uses most of his vacations days to drive up and volunteer on Friday test days so that he can be at the track 3 days per weekend something like 18 weekends a year.

If you are interested make the time.
Some people will take your comment as criticism. Me, I'll just juggle my schedule a bit and (horrors!) do a few less lapping days so it's no extra time commitment to be honest. More than worth it to be close to the real action. Best seats in the house, I'll bet!

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 11:15am
Which assumptions?

Love the assumptions.

Angry Chicken
October 29th, 2014, 11:17am
I'm with Luke and Jethro. "I would love to do that but can't" there are a few examples where that cuts it (mostly once kids are involved). But in general, it's a cop out. Like anything, you wanna make shit happen? Make shit happen. If you really would LOVE to do something, you will find a way. Most people are talkers, there are very few doers. Doers, I salute thee.
^^^^^^
This

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 11:19am
Which assumptions?
No worries, this doesn't do anything for the cause.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 11:22am
meh.

if you want to participate throw your hat in the ring. you might find out you don't like it and that's fine too.
I get the whole balancing your free time, family, wives, marriage, kids etc. We are all at different points in our lives with respect to that. This is part of the reason why I'm not doing any of the evening races next year.
And, don't want to get into a pissing match around assumptions around any of that. We're all different that way.

The "I'd love to but I can't" or "That's too far away to plan for" reasons are kind of thin. Like others have said - if you really wanted to do it you'd find a way.
Just don't be one of the ones bitching about how something is operated and not be willing to step up and make it better.

The current MCO executives say they want to change - we will see. I'll do my part to help make it better.

RandomHer0
October 29th, 2014, 11:22am
I'm with Luke and Jethro. "I would love to do that but can't" there are a few examples where that cuts it (mostly once kids are involved). But in general, it's a cop out. Like anything, you wanna make shit happen? Make shit happen. If you really would LOVE to do something, you will find a way. Most people are talkers, there are very few doers. Doers, I salute thee.

Gotta agree with this honestly; applies to more than just standing around watching cars go in circles. Apply it to life.

Are you the type to roll hard or roll softly?

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 11:23am
More than worth it to be close to the real action. Best seats in the house, I'll bet!

^ yes and yes.

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 11:27am
Pretty sure the 400+ MCO member vs the 12-15 volunteers is the exact ratio of people who roll soft vs roll hard in life. :)
Gotta agree with this honestly; applies to more than just standing around watching cars go in circles. Apply it to life.

Are you the type to roll hard or roll softly?

wing
October 29th, 2014, 11:29am
LOL take t for example.

Wants to help with chumpcar.

Comes to my house at 5am to clear a path to park the parts car for the winter.

Shows up at 6am to clear out trailer.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 11:30am
and t has 5 kids.

RandomHer0
October 29th, 2014, 11:31am
sleep when youre dead

wing
October 29th, 2014, 11:32am
Funny thing that sleep. As you get older you sleep less. Can barely sleep past 7:30 now and if I do I am sore.

Actually feel better getting up at 6, but hate doing it lol

RandomHer0
October 29th, 2014, 11:33am
Same, feel like Im burning daylight. Even if Im on the couch posting on MR about how much time I dont have.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 11:33am
Gotta agree with this honestly; applies to more than just standing around watching cars go in circles. Apply it to life.

Are you the type to roll hard or roll softly?
Completely agree, just rolling hard on my life's priorities. Being a volunteer for MCO is not one of them.

And that's ok.

Jasz
October 29th, 2014, 11:34am
Will Jeff show up to events in the lunch mobile?

Gojira
October 29th, 2014, 11:36am
and t has 5 kids.

T gets shit dun.

RandomHer0
October 29th, 2014, 11:37am
Completely agree, just rolling hard on my life's priorities. Being a volunteer for MCO is not one of them.

And that's ok.

Absolutely. Roll hard on what you want.

Wookie
October 29th, 2014, 11:38am
Same, feel like Im burning daylight. Even if Im on the couch posting on MR about how much time I dont have.

lol

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 11:42am
Absolutely OK!

Completely agree, just rolling hard on my life's priorities. Being a volunteer for MCO is not one of them.

And that's ok.

NTIMD8
October 29th, 2014, 11:47am
There's 2 types of people in this world. there's hammers, and there's nails...you decide which one you want to be.

Andre
October 29th, 2014, 11:57am
Peen hammer

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 11:59am
There's 2 types of people in this world. there's hammers, and there's nails...you decide which one you want to be.
The hammer is a bully smashing things to get his way and the nails are the people holding the ship together.

Wookie
October 29th, 2014, 12:00pm
The hammer is a bully smashing things to get his way and the nails are the people holding the ship together.

Without the hammer, the nails would never even be there to keep the ship together.

Egg>chicken<egg

mightymousetech
October 29th, 2014, 12:02pm
Huh? The egg came first, from an animal that was not a chicken.

Blind
October 29th, 2014, 12:03pm
Without the hammer, the nails would never even be there to keep the ship together.

Egg>chicken<egg
Without the nails, what's there to hammer?

NoLimits Autoparts
October 29th, 2014, 12:03pm
There's 2 types of people in this world. there's hammers, and there's nails...you decide which one you want to be.


What if you like to nail things while your hammered??? Huh?

tellum
October 29th, 2014, 12:03pm
25848

Andre
October 29th, 2014, 12:04pm
Without the nails, what's there to hammer?


Puss

schmoo
October 29th, 2014, 12:04pm
Just don't be one of the ones bitching about how something is operated and not be willing to step up and make it better.

The current MCO executives say they want to change - we will see. I'll do my part to help make it better.

What kind of change is being discussed Jeff?

Andre
October 29th, 2014, 12:07pm
What if you like to nail things while your hammered??? Huh?

http://barkpost-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/DogHumpGifPurplePillow.gif

NTIMD8
October 29th, 2014, 12:09pm
Push.
Harder.
Go past the max.
Reach over the top.
Master your ass.
Overshoot the extreme.
Max the envelope and so on....

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 01:04pm
What kind of change is being discussed Jeff?

Bill Olders, Terry Dale, Ron Woltman etc all said some new faces are needed and that there's lots to change to make the club more relevant.
They're open to change. Enough new faces with a common goal will make sure things get voted in.

wing
October 29th, 2014, 01:58pm
Ron is usually adverse to change I thought.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 02:03pm
I will just bully him.
or try to touch his hair.

don't worry.

1Morelap
October 29th, 2014, 02:09pm
this thread is 11 pages too long.

don't drink the koolaid.

g.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 02:12pm
i dont like koolaid

1Morelap
October 29th, 2014, 02:18pm
so stop drankin it.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 02:19pm
I'll stop everything because I don't know what you're talking about.

edit: read urban dictionary. all good now.

Lizard King
October 29th, 2014, 02:34pm
Is this a women's club where we get to express our emotions?

: )

Lizard King
October 29th, 2014, 02:35pm
sleep when youre dead

Shut up gran'pa. I do what I want.

Lizard King
October 29th, 2014, 02:37pm
step up or shut up.




EMPHASIS on the 'shut up' part. If you need to tell us about your reasons and priorities... i'm out.

Lizard King
October 29th, 2014, 02:37pm
MCO is going from a tree house club to a club house?

Cool.

schmoo
October 29th, 2014, 04:14pm
Not sure what openness to change from Terry Dale and Ron Woltman matters, neither are on the exec and neither are running.

Or should I interpret as Terry and Ron run the show in the background?

Change is happening... I think everyone on the ballot, save the proposed President, is of a new mindset.

Scruffy
October 29th, 2014, 04:30pm
Terry and Ron are a part of the Executive Meetings and participate in the discussions. Wouldn't say that they run the show in the background. They offer an insight that has helped shape the club over many years. I can see that some of them might be resistant to change, but I don't feel they would fight it.

In the end, these guys are risk & change averse, but are also tired and know that they are falling behind the times. They want to make sure that the club respects it's history and legacy, but their methods of doing so are alienating the new generations. They don't want to see MCO become an old man's club... and are willing to accept that changes are going to happen. Most of all though, they are happy that regardless of changes, regardless of logos, regardless of legacy or history, there are people stepping up to run MCO so now the club will continue. These guys have been wanting to step down but haven't been able to due to a lack of people to replace them. Had they just stepped down, MCO would've ceased indefinitely until some new blood stepped up.

1Morelap
October 29th, 2014, 04:40pm
I remember when I said that.

figo
October 29th, 2014, 05:13pm
Hmm seems like too much politics and not enough racing.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 05:14pm
If they serve kool aid im gonna be pissed.

dbg
October 29th, 2014, 05:40pm
There doesn't need to be a lot of politics. Having one or two "old guard" around actually is useful - they provide some perspective, e.g. on why some things didn't work in the past. But that shouldn't stop the new guys with ideas.

I think Bill would be very receptive to new ideas. Even though he's not young, he's actually "new blood". He's the guy that moved everything over to motorsportreg.com. He's also a very smart guy - he built a successful technology company up from scratch, based on some sophisticated algorithms he developed... now is selling it off to new management for big bucks.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 05:42pm
Matt...on your age question: 16. But IMO it also depends on the maturity level of the individual.

schmoo
October 29th, 2014, 05:49pm
There doesn't need to be a lot of politics. Having one or two "old guard" around actually is useful - they provide some perspective, e.g. on why some things didn't work in the past. But that shouldn't stop the new guys with ideas.

I think Bill would be very receptive to new ideas. Even though he's not young, he's actually "new blood". He's the guy that moved everything over to motorsportreg.com. He's also a very smart guy - he built a successful technology company up from scratch, based on some sophisticated algorithms he developed... now is selling it off to new management for big bucks.

+1. Bill has never given me the impression he has anything but the purest motivations and a reasonable (and smart) head on his shoulders.

Don't know Terry or Ron all that well, but Terry has always seemed fair and reasonable whenever I've encountered him.

pyxen
October 29th, 2014, 05:52pm
if you were available for one race weekend a year that would be fantastic.
more than that I'd be ecstatic.

I can probably do one...maybe 2 if I'm really good about planning it, but family always comes first.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 05:53pm
I can probably do one...maybe 2 if I'm really good about planning it, but family always comes first.

Exxxxcellent.

luker
October 29th, 2014, 07:45pm
These guys have been wanting to step down but haven't been able to due to a lack of people to replace them.

Glad to hear that is now the case, it wasn't in the past. And it has driven MANY people away from the club that were willing to take on organizing, I can name 15 off the top of my head.

Really really glad that things are moving towards changing, this will rejuvenate the Ottawa motorsports scene.

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 07:51pm
Matt...on your age question: 16. But IMO it also depends on the maturity level of the individual.

Awesome thanks. I have a cousin that wants in on the scene... Unfortunately, he's only 14. I'm sure there are some roles he can fill though!

wing
October 29th, 2014, 07:57pm
Paddock Marshall

luker
October 29th, 2014, 07:58pm
Matt, the club has used people of that age for several roles in the past. Also, volunteer hours can go towards high school requirements.

Jethro
October 29th, 2014, 08:10pm
Awesome thanks. I have a cousin that wants in on the scene... Unfortunately, he's only 14. I'm sure there are some roles he can fill though!

That age limit is for licensed officials, particularly on the hot side of the facility.

Mechs02
October 29th, 2014, 08:11pm
Cool I'll talk to him!

schmoo
October 29th, 2014, 08:33pm
Glad to hear that is now the case, it wasn't in the past. And it has driven MANY people away from the club that were willing to take on organizing, I can name 15 off the top of my head.

Really really glad that things are moving towards changing, this will rejuvenate the Ottawa motorsports scene.

Shed light?

Jasz
October 29th, 2014, 09:07pm
If there was no mention of mco in this thread, I'd think you were talking about the Knights of Columbus or something.

pyxen
October 29th, 2014, 10:17pm
About the idea of hosting film nights - I'd love to see the MCO renting out a theatre here and there, and hosting the F1 races, or showing a couple of indie flicks like Easier Said Than Done, or Love the Beast. Great films about motorsport!

Scruffy
October 30th, 2014, 07:08am
About the idea of hosting film nights
Greg K once tried to organize an MCO movie night for Rush. Total head count of those who actually went... 2. Greg and myself.

Blind
October 30th, 2014, 07:10am
Lol. Exciting

schmoo
October 30th, 2014, 07:14am
Terry and Ron are a part of the Executive Meetings and participate in the discussions...

...These guys have been wanting to step down but haven't been able to due to a lack of people to replace them. Had they just stepped down, MCO would've ceased indefinitely until some new blood stepped up.

How are they participating? Just expressing views, or voting?

Stepped down from what? They aren't exec members now. Were they in 2013?

I'm always reluctant to label any individual as indispensable.

Jethro
October 30th, 2014, 07:28am
The real answer may be "Ottawa Motorsports Club".

schmoo
October 30th, 2014, 07:30am
The real answer may be "Ottawa Motorsports Club".

*me confused*

Jethro
October 30th, 2014, 07:30am
*me confused*

new club.

pyxen
October 30th, 2014, 08:17am
new club.

I'll bring the punch and pie.

NoLimits Autoparts
October 30th, 2014, 08:24am
new club.


Really? and loose all that heritage? Isnt MCO the oldest car club in canada?

Jethro
October 30th, 2014, 08:26am
Really? and loose all that heritage? Isnt MCO the oldest car club in canada?

just throwing around ideas.

the heritage doesn't mead diddly if the club is ineffective.

NoLimits Autoparts
October 30th, 2014, 08:33am
Then make changes as needed to improve it, It will be a learning experience for all. But to throw away that heritage and history, I dunno, you cant buy that no matter how much you spend or advertize.

1Morelap
October 30th, 2014, 08:33am
lol, the club is fine.

Jethro
October 30th, 2014, 08:34am
#catsup

schmoo
October 30th, 2014, 08:36am
Setting up a new club seems a bit extreme to me -- incorporation, insurance, new relationships with ASN and CASC. You'd need to wait for MCO to be dead and buried.

Simpler I think is to:

- clean-up and modernize the Club's governance to ensure transparency, particularly on financials, and conflicts of interest -- by-laws are brutal at present and it seems even key members of this year's Exec don't even understand them

- identify impediments to stability and fix them, even if that includes kicking some people's asses

- communicate better with the membership

- make volunteering fun and meaningful (not so easy)

One thing I've learned working on autox since 2008 is that 90% of time, what the old guard "know" to be fact is either entirely made-up based on their preferences or biases, or taken verbatim from what their predecessors told them. There is very little evidence-based decision-making in this world.

Start asking for proof and the old house of cards falls apart.

Jethro
October 30th, 2014, 08:38am
schmoo....JOKES.