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1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 01:21pm
http://youtu.be/-NH9tyE_de4

Got grip? wow.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 01:41pm
Dude I told you cornering speeds are the same. Based on my lap data his cornering speeds are nearly identical to mine. Only place that was mark-ably different was kink I do 160 he was 180, in the slower corners like 12 exactly the same, also quarry I cruise through there at 95-100.

I actually turn into 10 at 135 and he's going exactly the same.

I'm betting if you had data on your 2:18 lap you would see you are actually cornering faster and harder! They are making up time in the straights. When I first got my Michelin's I was pulling 1.9 gs all over the place, they fell off like a rock though. I'm sure you were doing the same on Hoosiers!

Wish I could run 2:04's though LOL

awndray
August 16th, 2012, 01:46pm
I think what wing is saying is, give him a Porsche and he'll run 2:04's all day long.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 01:49pm
Nope, but Greg may be able to. What I am saying is we were discussing it, like when we were like there (didn't see you there) and Greg was saying they corner much harder. But I didn't think so, slightly faster yes (wider cars, bigger tires). But looking at the data (science doesn't lie) I was correct it's basically the same. A few k's here and there.

I have the data from short track when my tires were new. Greg needs a data logger ;)

Pete
August 16th, 2012, 01:59pm
Greg needs to drive a non-crashed Speedmerchant porsche around Bogie to substanciate those claims... I'd love to see that.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 02:04pm
Except for a couple of driver's most of the driver's in these cars are just regular rich dudes. I wouldn't doubt if many of us could run similar times with practice. Chris Green was cleaning up the field though... he fast!

Ian
August 16th, 2012, 02:07pm
At times that video looks like it's being fast forwarded :D Damn I'd love to have one of those cars!

Mario
August 16th, 2012, 02:12pm
In 4 places he goes over 200km/h! almost a fifth time before entering the pits

sb_915
August 16th, 2012, 02:19pm
That guy is a huge prick BTW - he calls people out on the Montreal racing forums.

Yeah you can run a 2:04, but that doesn't make me respect you.

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 02:56pm
oh that sucks. Didn't know that.

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 02:57pm
Chris was in a gold car, out schooling the platinum cars too.

sb_915
August 16th, 2012, 03:02pm
^ yeah Chris is nuts! I was talking to Carl last weekend and he said that Chris is a super nice guy too.

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 03:02pm
Nope, but Greg may be able to. What I am saying is we were discussing it, like when we were like there (didn't see you there) and Greg was saying they corner much harder. But I didn't think so, slightly faster yes (wider cars, bigger tires). But looking at the data (science doesn't lie) I was correct it's basically the same. A few k's here and there.

I have the data from short track when my tires were new. Greg needs a data logger ;)

yah some of his corner speeds are really close to what I saw on hoosiers. But I'm dreaming if I think I can knock even 5secs off my time, let alone 14.

a lap timer would be sweet, I'm jealous of you guys knowing how your lap is going at all times.

sb_915
August 16th, 2012, 03:04pm
a lap timer would be sweet, I'm jealous of you guys knowing how your lap is going at all times.


Carl let me borrow his AIM laptimer at the Time Attack - VERY COOL! It's one of the only ones with "predictive" lap times. So basically it's telling you if the lap you're currently on is going to be faster/slower than your best. Works really well if you're focusing on one corner too.

Given that it was my first time with it, I had trouble understanding it, but I could see getting used to it for sure. Would make a good xmas/b-day present LOL ;)

IIRC, the timer/logger is only about $400

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 03:06pm
more tires or lap timer. arrrg.

RandomHer0
August 16th, 2012, 03:17pm
Tires.

tellum
August 16th, 2012, 03:18pm
Tires.
Do you know where he could get some?

RandomHer0
August 16th, 2012, 03:21pm
I have a Random guess.

sb_915
August 16th, 2012, 03:23pm
I bet those tires will make him a Her0.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 03:23pm
Yeah my trackmate gives me predictive as well. This really helped in the one lap qualifying.

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 03:24pm
Summer goes by so fast.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 03:26pm
Winter racing!

sb_915
August 16th, 2012, 03:29pm
Anyone want to be director?

Not sure if I want to do it again this year... we'll see.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 03:30pm
Too cold. LOL

t
August 16th, 2012, 03:57pm
Except for a couple of driver's most of the driver's in these cars are just regular rich dudes. I wouldn't doubt if many of us could run similar times with practice.

This I truly did not know.

Let's get rich?

t

mikeman
August 16th, 2012, 03:58pm
This I truly did not know.

Let's get rich?

t
I've been trying, but doing it wrong.

Mechs02
August 16th, 2012, 04:00pm
its approximately $400,000 to run a season (excluding the purchase of the car), if nothing mechanically goes wrong, or you do nine endos and land on your roof....

RandomHer0
August 16th, 2012, 04:01pm
:pound:

Mechs02
August 16th, 2012, 04:02pm
Even Richard was like... THATS CRAZY...

Blind
August 16th, 2012, 04:09pm
Summer goes by so fast.

Can't believe its september soon.

mightymousetech
August 16th, 2012, 04:23pm
Hell, it's like that in pro racing as well. Very few people have unbelievable talent. What they have is either outrageously rich parents or huge sponsors. Anybody with a bit of talent can run top 10 in GrandAm and the likes, as long as they have a bottomless pit of money.

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 04:26pm
I'd run nastrucks. Just need a million for a season I think. Chump change.

mikeman
August 16th, 2012, 04:27pm
just get a beer company to sponsor you..

or Mello Yello

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 04:29pm
Beaus? I can't even get their bus to stop at my house.

Blind
August 16th, 2012, 04:29pm
Should all talk to beau's and see what they can do for us.

Blind
August 16th, 2012, 04:30pm
Beaus? I can't even get their bus to stop at my house.

Lol, rep.

wing
August 16th, 2012, 05:01pm
Hell, it's like that in pro racing as well. Very few people have unbelievable talent. What they have is either outrageously rich parents or huge sponsors. Anybody with a bit of talent can run top 10 in GrandAm and the likes, as long as they have a bottomless pit of money.

Yup, basically unless you are Nascar or F1 for the most part you are PAYING to drive. Very few driver's in the world get paid to drive.

RandomHer0
August 16th, 2012, 05:40pm
So what can beaus do for me??

mikeman
August 16th, 2012, 05:59pm
i know what the tattooey beaus girls can do for me....

mphysk
August 16th, 2012, 06:27pm
i know what the tattooey beaus girls can do for me....

Pics...

Mario
August 16th, 2012, 09:29pm
Yup, basically unless you are Nascar or F1 for the most part you are PAYING to drive. Very few driver's in the world get paid to drive.
I was just reading in F1 Mag that many drivers have to pay for their seat to get a chance in F1. Schumacher and his manager paid $243,000 US per race Jordan-Ford in 1991 for a seat. They call those pilots “RENTA-DRIVERS”. Legends like Niki Lauda took out personal loans to get a F1 seat. Supposedly its common practice still today. Maldonado is one

awndray
August 16th, 2012, 10:14pm
LOL! A personal lone for a quarter million dollars to race a car? No credit is stupid enough to lend that kind of money for such a thing unless the applicant can afford to. Paying or not, those "pilots" have the coin to back it up.

Mario
August 16th, 2012, 10:35pm
Niki Lauda took a personal loan on his house, story does not say how much. Schumacher managers was feeding the cash he was getting from sponsors to pay the Sauber-Mercedes Group to drive that Jordan-Ford

1Morelap
August 16th, 2012, 10:49pm
Even Ron fellows mortgaged his house to race back in the day. For every story that turns into gold, how many turn into bankruptcy.

Mario
August 16th, 2012, 10:53pm
This racing sickness will make us do crazy things

Manimillion
August 17th, 2012, 06:16pm
How come the driver seems so choppy at the wheel?

Jethro
August 17th, 2012, 06:18pm
How come the driver seems so choppy at the wheel?

He's driving flat out.

JettaRacer
August 17th, 2012, 06:29pm
How come the driver seems so choppy at the wheel?

Because racecar!

What I laughed at when I watched it was there are still cones everywhere! Seriously? A real race weekend an they leave out all the entry/apex/exit cones. Hahaha. Really now.

wing
August 17th, 2012, 06:39pm
Yeah they should just put bollards in as the cores seem to be a permanent fixture

JohnnyG
August 17th, 2012, 06:46pm
I was just reading in F1 Mag that many drivers have to pay for their seat to get a chance in F1. Schumacher and his manager paid $243,000 US per race Jordan-Ford in 1991 for a seat. They call those pilots “RENTA-DRIVERS”. Legends like Niki Lauda took out personal loans to get a F1 seat. Supposedly its common practice still today. Maldonado is one

Which is also why Maldonado likes to crash into everything. Money doesn't buy skill.

1Morelap
August 17th, 2012, 06:49pm
How come the driver seems so choppy at the wheel?

yah saw that too, his hand placement in 14 is weird too, it's like he can't reach the top of the wheel with his right hand. who am I to say, he's going fast. The car in front appears to be going faster.

and lol at the cone comments, nobody cared, too busy racin.

Chris916
August 17th, 2012, 07:03pm
How come the driver seems so choppy at the wheel?

On the limit of grip. Making corrections even before the back steps out.