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Tim
May 9th, 2011, 12:05pm
What's your opinions on full face VS open face? I am leaning towards open face simply because I don't like having my face covered. Is there any disadvantages? This is what I am looking at.

Open face.
http://ridersdiscount.com/street-gear/helmets-open-face/24602.php

Closed Face.
http://ridersdiscount.com/street-gear/helmets-full-face/100253.php

Thanks.

figo
May 9th, 2011, 12:19pm
for lapping? i would go open face, you can talk easily to instrutor or whoever.

Tim
May 9th, 2011, 12:24pm
Yes for Lapping.

SilverSpecV04-T
May 9th, 2011, 12:29pm
Also for comfort open face is way better and you won't get as hot.

Tim
May 9th, 2011, 12:33pm
That's my thinking.

Tim
May 9th, 2011, 12:36pm
Now the other question in reading Awndrays post is this one is Snell M2005 and apparently I need SA2005. Will CMP allow the M2005?

Jethro
May 9th, 2011, 12:44pm
I used this document as a guide for required ratings...I couldn't find anything on the Calabogie site for helmet requirements. http://www.casc.on.ca/uploadedFiles/2010_SoloSprint_Rules100207161600.pdf
In my case I picked up a M2005 full face lid - all they checked for yesterday was helmet on and chin strap on. noone eyeballed the helmet rating.

SilverSpecV04-T
May 9th, 2011, 12:45pm
To my knowledge, only MCO really cares about ratings really.

awndray
May 9th, 2011, 12:48pm
Nobody will check the rating. A motorcycle-rated helmet will work just fine. Keep in mind, if catastrophic were to happen and authorities were to come in to investigate an incident, then somebody would likely check the helmet.

The helmet is a matter of added safety. Remember that you have a big cage around you (your car) and you're wearing a seat-belt. The rating is a matter of legalese - especially when you're entering the licensed racing world.

Tim
May 9th, 2011, 12:49pm
Yeah I just did a google search and the best I could find was that only CASC requires SA rating. Any schools etc that operate at CMP said the M rating was fine. Guess I am good to go.

RandomHer0
May 9th, 2011, 12:57pm
Disadvantage - Open face looks queer.

EricVII
May 9th, 2011, 01:07pm
Disadvantage - Open face looks queer.

Jethro
May 9th, 2011, 01:12pm
Disadvantage - Open face looks queer.

^^True. I tried a couple on the weekend and the chipmunk cheek look was much more noticeable with the open face.

awndray
May 9th, 2011, 01:13pm
Advantage - Open face allows you to wear a helmet to Beerfest. You can never be too safe.

Tim
May 9th, 2011, 01:19pm
I prefer the look of full face 100%. But I'd rather be comfortable and safe than look good and safe.


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RandomHer0
May 9th, 2011, 01:21pm
I run full face and Im comfy. Up to you really.

Be ghey, not be ghey.

Andre
May 9th, 2011, 01:21pm
i would go open face, you can talk easily to instrutor or whoever.

Gojira
May 9th, 2011, 02:14pm
I have a Simpson Bandit full face, just to look cool.

Adam
May 9th, 2011, 02:36pm
Disadvantage - Open face looks queer.

lol

SilverSpecV04-T
May 9th, 2011, 03:00pm
Be ghey, not be ghey.

Doesn't sound like much of a choice :tongue:

Tim
May 9th, 2011, 03:23pm
Doesn't sound like much of a choice :tongue:

Right. I am going with ghey.

Mechs02
May 9th, 2011, 03:38pm
if you choose to do the calabogie cup, open face is nice so you can have a drink during your pitstop... I have full face and just ended up just splashing water in the eye opening, hoping to get some in my mouth... mostly it went down my shirt and on my pants... so instead of looking ghey, i just looked like a pissed my pants... muuuuch better.

As for ratings, i havent checked rules and reg's this year, but as of last year all SNELL M rated to the appropriate year were fine UNLESS you have a roll cage, at that point you require an SA helmet. Again, no one is checking unless something really terrible happens. At that point you dont have anything to worry about... your next of kin might though...

1Morelap
May 9th, 2011, 07:19pm
all ASN sanctioned clubs (MCO/SPDA/BIMMER etc etc ) require M2005 minimum for lapping. SA2005 if you are using a caged car. The new stuff is **2010 rated now.
Some clubs have extended the M2000 rating for one more year, but nobody sells those anymore.

At any event, it's up to the organizer. Get a proper rated helmet, then you don't need to worry about it.

Pat sells really good SA rated buckets, removable liner to clean sweat, I have one. Closed face, because my face is pretty and I like it.

If you want M rated, call Carl at http://www.perryautolaval.com/performanceeng.php , tell him Greg sent ya.

SlowStang
May 11th, 2011, 07:11pm
Where is the best place in the city to try on helmets? I want to get one to start lapping and have for a motorcycle helmet but i have an abnormally large head. Would rather try them on locally before i price shop. Any cheapish brands that are recommended.

Tim
May 11th, 2011, 08:27pm
Powersports or Ottawa Goodtime have a decent selection. Can't comment on price though.

Jethro
May 11th, 2011, 08:29pm
Found this summary on the M2005 vs SA2005 ratings....

SA standard requires flammability test while the M standard does not.
SA standard has rollbar impact test while M standard does not.
SA standard allows narrower visual field than M standard (Some SA helmets aren't street legal)."

Jethro
May 11th, 2011, 08:31pm
Powersports or Ottawa Goodtime have a decent selection. Can't comment on price though.

I bought my helmet from Goodtime center on Hunt club. They had no SA helmets that I could find. Price range started at 140 and went to 1200. I bought a $320 helmet (M2005 - which I will use on my forthcoming bike). Goodtime didn't have alot of XL helmets or 2XL (depending on the brand I needed 2xl).

SilverSpecV04-T
May 12th, 2011, 01:21am
Was just a goodtime today and they had a few open face choices.

RandomHer0
May 12th, 2011, 07:58am
NICE FACE!